Former North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory says he can’t find a job following fallout from his now infamous anti-transgender bathroom bill in the state.
“People are reluctant to hire me, because ‘oh my gosh, he’s a bigot’ — which is the last thing I am,” remarked McCrory in an interview with World Radio.
The podcast can be heard here. The segment with McCrory can be heard beginning at 14:49. We have provided a pretty complete transcript, and annotated it with snark, and facts, to help you get through it.
World Radio frames McCrory as a centrist, moderate Republican thrust to the front lines of the “Culture Wars.”
First question for McCrory, why did he get beaten in the race for re-election?
“Well I lost by 10,000 votes out of 4.6 million, and I think the main reason I got beat was I was outspent almost 2 to 1. Money does make a difference, especially in a close election,” said McCrory, widely known to have been funded by the Koch brothers. McCrory said of HB2 that “most people have no idea what it really is and how it’s not just a North Carolina issue.”
Funny! We thought that most people around the entire world had heard of HB2 by now and how anti-transgender stupidity and bigotry became a wedge issue for Pat and North Carolina. But to Pat, it’s still all about the money.
He claimed that film subsidies were another key issue that cost him 20 to 30 thousand votes in the Wilmington area. “The Democrats and the liberals did a very good job spending their money in the right way and misleading the public on certain issues.”
By misleading, does Pat mean it is misleading to imply that civil rights for all is something we won’t back down on? Because we won’t back down on civil rights.
“It’s been a tough time for me but I accept the results, although voter I.D. probably made a big difference too. The Obama administration changed their voter I.D. rules five weeks before the election and that no doubt allowed a lot of college students who didn’t live in state, which is against North Carolina law, to vote in this election,” said McCrory.
Here, Pat must be referring to the strict voter I.D. law that the SCOTUS shot down for its “surgical precision to blunt the influence of African-American voters.” How terrible for him that they couldn’t discriminate and lock out enough minority voters to win the election.
The host of the conservative radio show claimed the LGBT narrative would be used to punish politicians who stand against the “LGBT movement.” McCrory agreed.
“They are using this 10,000 vote win as warning to any politician to speak against policies which are contrary to their agenda and they had one policy that was contrary to my agenda and that is: changing the definition of gender, and that’s really what they’re trying to do is instead of having doctors determine the definition of gender, they actually want politicians to determine the definition of gender and especially as it relates to the most private of facilities, our restrooms, locker rooms, and showers.”
Or maybe what we want is to determine that all citizens, including LGBT people, should simply be allowed to use the restroom that corresponds to common sense and gender identity. Or does Pat still not comprehend that a human being like Laverne Cox shouldn’t be forced to use the men’s restroom. Why is that so hard to figure out?
McCrory claims again that liberals did “a great job” of “letting the national media define the issue” as discrimination instead of privacy. “Sadly they’ve done a great job in getting people to boycott our state over a social issue, which I think is wrong, by the way, on any social issue, whether I agree with it or not.”
The thing is, simply having privacy in the bathroom is exactly what McCrory was trying to fight against in a discriminatory way for transgender people –fueling the false idea that conservatives throw around that transgender people are doing anything except using the restroom.
McCrory wondered what the next social issue would be.
“All they do is punish the popcorn maker in Greensboro, North Carolina. What’s next? Guns? Abortion? Immigration? Sanctuary Cities with different laws that we have?”
Apparently Pat hasn’t been paying attention to boycotts everywhere over these issues, aside from the popcorn.
McCrory lamented on the effectiveness of the Human Rights Campaign (whom the host later refers to as a “pro-homosexual group”) to gain support from corporations with what he called a “false narrative.” He claimed the HRC was more powerful than the NRA.
Right…because the NRA doesn’t have a stranglehold on our Republican government via lobbyists or anything…
“If you talk to CEOs off the record they go, ‘Heck, I agree with you, Pat, but I couldn’t say anything cause they’re more worried about the bottom line of finance.”
“Heck, it’s even impacted me to this day, even after I left office. People are reluctant to hire me, because, ‘oh my gosh, he’s a bigot’ — which is the last thing I am. I’m actually in some ways, rather liberal on some of these issues. I’m a libertarian on many of these issues but I don’t think a city government, a state government, or a federal government should be able to tell the private sector what the new definition of gender is,” said McCrory.
Pat has effectively ruled out any governing body, state or federal, from advancing a civil rights issue. Exactly who does that leave? Saying that’s “the last thing I am” is exactly like someone saying, “But I’m not racist.”
The host goes on to compare McCrory to a “reluctant warrior” moderate Republican, while McCrory strays back the gender issue.
Yet at the top of the interview, McCrory and the host prided themselves that the bathroom bill was one of many reasons he lost re-election.
“On the issue of gender, I think it’s a well-established definition. You know, it’s the doctor who determines the gender of a baby. You ask the doctor is it a boy or a girl? You don’t ask the baby. And, the same thing, should we have 5th graders decide what gender they are? I just think it’s common sense. I’m a pragmatic conservative. Now I’m called an extremist and a radical.”
Here, Pat illustrates that the concept of gender identity is purely a collection of biological parts, while excluding any notion that it is more than that. Scientific evidence would contradict his idea, but then, a big part of this fight is that science is discarded by many conservatives. The first-hand accounts of transgender people are, of course, not remotely considered either…
McCrory goes on to outline how liberals, who he refers to as “these new thought police” had always planned to “eviscerate” him whatever he did when he was elected, and how he was called a bigot for his stance on what he maintains is really a privacy issue, not a civil rights issue.
“It’s a bad part of our nation going on right now. You see the same techniques being used against Trump right now,” said Pat.
McCrory says the “worst of our country” is that people are afraid to admit they support Trump or the traditional definition of gender for fear of being called bigots.
We would see the worst of our country as openly defending racism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, and xenophobia –the bigots are the ones doing the actual oppressing. This evades Pat McCrory.
“The left-wing is more intolerant than the right-wing,” McCrory said, going on to talk about being “attacked” and chased down an alley in Washington D.C. for several blocks during inauguration protests when he was recognized.
“There’s Pat McCrory! Let’s get him!’And I’m sitting there without security going, ‘Is this really happening?’ And it’s over this issue[…]And I was in fear of my safety,” McCrory said.
Wow, Pat! You just got a tiny little taste of what if would feel like to be a transgender person in America, or indeed, in most of the world. How does that feel, Pat? To be singled out for victimization?
“I’m actually empathetic to somebody going through a gender identity crisis, but I’m not going to purge them from the debate and I expect the same respect in return and this is what the intolerant left does not do and I’m sadly seeing that being transformed to the Trump administration.”
“[…] In some ways, I’ve been punished by losing a great governor’s job that, heck, I mean, we did a super job as governor,” he said.
Referring yourself as a “we” is certainly curious, Pat. Did we also learn anything by targeting minorities? Apparently not.
McCrory then claims that many people approach him in a whispering voice saying that they have agreed with him on the bathroom issue.
The audio is a bit creepy here…
“The silent majority is too silent, and they let the loud minority actually speak and win the election, so I’m starting to wonder, maybe the silent majority is no longer the majority anymore.”
And here we have the epiphany: Maybe the silent majority doesn’t represent the actual majority. Maybe they are silent because they know discrimination is not actually defensible, even if they happen to have the upper-hand in population numbers???
McCrory complains about receiving death threats and hate mail, as well as being chased down the street in D.C. He calls for “intellectual debate” and mutual respect, saying that it was liberals who brought up the bathroom issue, not right-wing extremists.
No, Pat– You fought tooth and nail for HB2 regardless of what your constituents, the HRC, the feds, or anybody else wanted. Now you got a tiny taste of what being a persecuted minority might be like each and every day of their lives. Then somebody likes you comes along and wants them not to be able to simply pee in peace. Where is the “mutual respect?”
McCrory met with Trump during his campaign, and wonders why a small percentage of Trump voters didn’t vote for him. He calls Trump a “breath of fresh air” in some ways. He doesn’t rule out the possibility of being offered a position with the Trump administration.
Trump does seem to favor swamp inhabitants. We can only hope he passes on McCrory.
The North Carolina Democratic Party issued a statement in response to McCrory’s interview:
“North Carolina has already lost hundreds of millions of dollars in economic activity and thousands of jobs as a direct result of House Bill 2, but I guess we can start adding Gov. McCrory’s career to the total as well,” a spokesman said in a statement.
Poor Governor stuck with the consequences of his choice to back discrimination.